I love this game but

… the RNG hates me :smiley:

I play with my MiFi axe builded and usually I find:

  • legendary staff
  • robes, tons of robes
  • legendary or unique swords, maces, flails, everything but axe
  • tomes everywhere
  • potions of magic
  • helms with unique powers, and incredibly high stats

I play with my DjCj?

  • Axes
  • Unique Axes
  • Legendary Axes
  • Heavy armors
  • Boots

… but I still love the game :stuck_out_tongue:

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I fully support this sentiment about RNG, but from a different angle.

On my last winning run, I got a +8 randart rapier on D:4 while playing as a Kobold stabber. The rapier was just laying here in a quiet provincial corridor like a piece of junk.

Before that, I got a win with Octopode stabber, because I got 3(!) rings of slaying relatively early (before finishing the Lair). I wasn’t even dreaming to ever have a second win as an Octopode, I play them just for “fun”.

When RNG affects my runs this much, I have to ask myself: is it me who plays the game? Or does the game just plays itself, using me as a biological o-tabbing engine?

I too love this game, but the “honest and unbiased” RNG is certainly a downgrade, compared to the modern rogue-likes.

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Try Gnoll X of Goz!

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I too love this game, but the “honest and unbiased” RNG is certainly a downgrade, compared to the modern rogue-likes.

Hard disagree. I think the item systems/loot in DCSS is one of its strong points. Valuable things for your character are uncommon enough to feel special and impactful, and to make a tangible difference in your runs, but you’re still going to get useful things at a reasonable rate. They’re just not going to be the same useful things run to run, which promotes flexibility.

Meanwhile many modern roguelikes have characters grow largely from the “pick a card” system where on levelup you get to choose one from a selection of several perks/items, which I find dreadfully boring and un-immersive.

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Minotaurs are great with all weapons, not just axes.

Djinni has poor aptitude for axes, but it could still be worth it if you find something amazing like Arga.

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yeah, I know that, I only said that is fun to see how many items you find in a run that are perfect for dead char that you’ve got