Lightning bolt damage

My Gargoyle Fighter is currently in the Spider Nest 1 and encountered Nicola. I have 107 HP, 54 AC and lightning resistance. Nicolas lightning bolt does 3d22 damage, bypasses half AC and can bounce back from walls. Sounds nasty but gives 66 max damage from one hit, minus half AC is 39, lightning resist cuts that to 13. Wall bounce gives 26 damage assuming a max roll. Sounds survivable for my char.

Instead I took 62 damage from one cast. How does that work? Char is still alive, I immediatelly stopped playing because if I take more than twice as much damage than I thought was the theoritical maximum I would like to understand how that happened first before I continue.

Fun fact: the forum suggests that my topic is similar to ‘244 damage from yellow draconian breath’ which was resolved as a bug in the game.

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Just realized I misremembered how AC works, the 27 half AC only gives my 1 to 27 damage reduction instead of 27 every time. But at some point in the math the lightning resistance which cuts damage to 1/3 still needs to come in so even if Nicola rolled a 66 on his 3d22 and I rolled a 1 on the AC damage reduction (twice but I’m not sure these are rolled again in a double zap scenario) that doesn’t come to 62 damage total.

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Playing with it in game and I can’t reproduce such a scenario where Lightning bolt does more than it should. Could you post a dump? Or link to an online account so we could see ttyrec?

Possible things that could make it do more damage than expected: Harm equipment, vitrify status, getting hit more often in 1 turn than you thought. Possibly more that doesn’t come to mind haha.

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Here is my character dump

 Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.34.1 (tiles) character file.

Game seed: 17369798459052269203

Vedghest the Bludgeoner (Gargoyle Fighter)         Turns: 17903, Time: 01:46:41

Health: 45/107     AC: 54    Str: 27    XL:     16   Next: 1%
Magic:  16/16      EV: 10    Int: 13    God:    the Shining One [******]
Gold:   858        SH:  0    Dex: 14    Spells: 15/15 levels left

rFire   + . .  (50%)    p - +12 great mace {protect, rElec rF+ Will+ Dex+3}
rCold   . . .  (100%)     [offhand occupied]
rNeg    + + +  (0%)     c - +3 shadow dragon scales
rPois   8      (0%)     k - +2 hat
rElec   +      (33%)    d - +2 cloak {Will+}
rCorr   +      (50%)    w - +2 pair of gloves
SInv    .               s - +1 pair of boots {Fly}
Will    +++..           f - amulet of regeneration
Stlth   +               t - ring "Ociklag" {AC+4 Str+2 Int+3}
HPRegen 1.17/turn       e - ring of resist corrosion
MPRegen 0.15/turn

%: no passive effects
@: under a protective aura, flying, glowing
A: sickness immunity, big wings, negative energy resistance 1, electricity
resistance, torment resistance 1, stone body
}: 1/15 runes: decaying
a: Renounce Religion (0%), Divine Shield (7%), Cleansing Flame (75%), Summon
Divine Warrior (89%), Brand Weapon With Holy Wrath (0%)


You are on level 1 of the Spider Nest.
You worship the Shining One.
The Shining One is exalted by your worship.
You have visited 6 branches of the dungeon, and seen 22 of its levels.
You have also visited: Bailey.

You have collected 3157 gold pieces.
You have spent 2299 gold pieces at shops.

Inventory:

Hand Weapons
 i - a +2 war axe of freezing
 p - the +12 great mace "Pafemm" (weapon) {protect, rElec rF+ Will+ Dex+3}
   (You acquired it on level 9 of the Dungeon)   
   
   rElec:     It insulates you from electricity.
   rF+:       It protects you from fire.
   Will+:     It increases your willpower.
   Dex+3:     It affects your dexterity (+3).
   
   It cannot be enchanted further.
 q - a +2 whip of freezing
 u - the +2 flail of Internal Strife {flame, rF+ rC+}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   rF+:       It protects you from fire.
   rC+:       It protects you from cold.
   
   It cannot be enchanted further.
Missiles
 g - 34 poisoned darts (quivered)
 m - 4 atropa-tipped darts
 n - 4 datura-tipped darts
Armour
 c - +3 shadow dragon scales (worn)
 d - a +2 cloak of willpower (worn)
 h - a +4 chain mail
 j - a +0 helmet
 k - a +2 hat (worn)
 s - a +1 pair of boots of flying (worn)
 v - a +0 buckler of reflection
 w - a +2 pair of gloves (worn)
Jewellery
 a - an amulet of faith
 b - an amulet of reflection
 e - a ring of resist corrosion (worn)
 f - an amulet of regeneration (worn)
 o - an amulet of the acrobat
 r - the amulet of the Jester {Wildshape Fly}
   (You found it on level 1 of the Lair of Beasts)   
   
   [amulet of wildshape]
   
   Wildshape: It improves your skill with shapeshifting (+5).
   Fly:       It grants you flight.
 t - the ring "Ociklag" (worn) {AC+4 Str+2 Int+3}
   (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)   
   
   [ring of protection]
   
   AC+4:      It affects your AC (+4).
   Str+2:     It affects your strength (+2).
   Int+3:     It affects your intelligence (+3).
Wands
 p - a wand of polymorph (19)
 b - a wand of light (22)
 e - a wand of charming (20)
 c - a wand of iceblast (17)
 a - a wand of flame (68)
 d - a wand of digging (8)
 f - a wand of mindburst (16)
Scrolls
 r - 6 scrolls of revelation
 N - 2 scrolls of noise
 b - 4 scrolls of blinking
 s - 3 scrolls of summoning
 V - 2 scrolls of vulnerability
 g - 5 scrolls of fog
 t - 7 scrolls of teleportation
 x - 5 scrolls of amnesia
 i - 4 scrolls of identify
 p - a scroll of poison
 f - a scroll of fear
 I - 3 scrolls of immolation
 w - a scroll of enchant weapon
Potions
 m - 4 potions of might
 A - 3 potions of attraction
 r - 3 potions of resistance
 B - a potion of berserk rage
 b - 3 potions of brilliance
 c - 5 potions of curing
 h - 3 potions of haste
 C - a potion of cancellation
 L - 4 potions of lignification
 w - 5 potions of heal wounds
 g - 2 potions of magic
Miscellaneous
 g - a +0 phantom mirror


   Skills:
 + Level 14,8 Fighting
 + Level 20,4 Maces & Flails
 + Level 12,3 Armour
 + Level 5,5 Dodging
 + Level 7,3 Shields


You have 15 spell levels left.
You don't know any spells.
Your spell library contains the following spells:

 Spells                   Type           Power      Damage    Failure   Level
 Apportation              Tloc           0%         N/A       77%         1
 Freeze                   Ice            0%         1d3       77%         1
 Magic Dart               Conj           0%         1d3       77%         1
 Poisonous Vapours        Alch/Air       0%         1d1       77%         1
 Slow                     Hex            0%         N/A       77%         1
 Soul Splinter            Necr           0%         N/A       77%         1
 Summon Small Mammal      Summ           0%         N/A       77%         1
 Blink                    Tloc           0%         N/A       88%         2
 Call Imp                 Summ           0%         N/A       88%         2
 Ensorcelled Hibernation  Hex/Ice        0%         N/A       88%         2
 Grave Claw               Necr           0%         2d7       88%         2
 Scorch                   Fire           0%         2d5       88%         2
 Searing Ray              Conj           0%         2d4       88%         2
 Call Canine Familiar     Summ           0%         N/A       98%         3
 Fugue of the Fallen      Necr           0%         N/A       98%         3
 Inner Flame              Hex/Fire       0%         N/A       98%         3
 Stone Arrow              Conj/Erth      0%         3d7       98%         3
 Summon Ice Beast         Ice/Summ       0%         N/A       98%         3
 Tukima's Dance           Hex            0%         N/A       98%         3
 Vampiric Draining        Necr           0%         2d6       98%         3
 Volatile Blastmotes      Fire/Tloc      0%         2d10      98%         3
 Airstrike                Air            0%         2d(0-16)  100%        4
 Anguish                  Hex/Necr       0%         N/A       100%        4
 Cause Fear               Hex            0%         N/A       100%        4
 Dispel Undead            Necr           0%         3d6       100%        4
 Forge Blazeheart Golem   Fire/Frge      0%         N/A       100%        4
 Forge Lightning Spire    Air/Frge       0%         3d4       100%        4
 Sticky Flame             Fire/Alch      0%         2d4       100%        4
 Alistair's Intoxication  Alch           0%         N/A       100%        5
 Borgnjor's Vile Clutch   Necr/Erth      0%         N/A       100%        5
 Nazja's Percussive Temp  Frge           0%         4d4       100%        5
 Summon Forest            Summ/Tloc      0%         N/A       100%        5
 Summon Mana Viper        Hex/Summ       0%         N/A       100%        5
 Yara's Violent Unravell  Hex/Alch       0%         3d3       100%        5
 Sculpt Simulacrum        Ice/Alch       0%         N/A       100%        6
 Manifold Assault         Tloc           0%         N/A       100%        7
 Shatter                  Erth           0%         3d5*      100%        9


Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations

Branches:
Dungeon (9/15)             Temple (1/1) D:5            Lair (5/5) D:8         
  Swamp (4/4) Lair:3       Spider (1/4) Lair:2        Slime (0/5) Lair:4      
    Orc (2/2) D:9             Elf (0/3) Orc:2        Bailey (visited)         

The Realm of Zot is guarded by orbs of fire.

Altars:
Ashenzari
Cheibriados
Dithmenos
Elyvilon
Fedhas
Gozag
Hepliaklqana
Kikubaaqudgha
Makhleb
Nemelex Xobeh
Okawaru
Qazlal
Ru
Sif Muna
Trog
Uskayaw
Vehumet
Wu Jian
Xom
Yredelemnul
Zin
The Shining One
Beogh
Lugonu

Shops:
D:5 [   D:8 [   D:9 **   Orc:2 :*=(?*

Portals:
Abyss: Lair:5
Trove: Swamp:4 (show abyssal rune of Zot)

Annotations:
Lair:4 1 runed translucent door
Spider:1 Nikola


Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations

You are immune to sickness and miasma.
You are immune to poison.
Your large and strong wings let you fly.
You resist negative energy. (rN+)
You are resistant to electric shocks. (rElec)
You are resistant to unholy torment.
Your stone body is resiliant and immune to petrification. (AC +12)

Message History

The culicivora is severely wounded.
The culicivora closely misses you.
You pound the culicivora like an anvil!!!
You kill the culicivora!
The Shining One accepts your kill.
You feel better.
You see here 4 boomerangs.
You see here 4 boomerangs.
You see here a culicivora corpse.
You see here a culicivora corpse.
You encounter Nikola the Mad Inventor. He is wielding a +4 rapier of
electrocution and wearing a +1 cloak of stealth.
You encounter a redback.
Nikola evades a web.
You pound Nikola like an anvil!!!
Your weapon exudes an aura of protection.
Nikola is lightly wounded.
You sock Nikola!
Nikola is moderately wounded.
Nikola mumbles some strange words.
Nikola blinks!
You thump Nikola!
Nikola is moderately wounded.
Nikola gestures wildly while chanting.
Lightning arcs from Nikola's hands! The bolt of lightning hits you!!! You
resist.
Ouch! That really hurt!
A bolt of lightning appears from out of thin air!
The bolt of lightning hits Nikola!
You hear a skittering sound. You hear a faint skittering sound. x2; You hear a
skittering sound.
You hear a faint skittering sound. x3; You hear a chilling moan. x2; You hear a
skittering sound.
You hear a faint skittering sound. You hear a skittering sound. x2; You hear a
faint skittering sound.
Level annotation: Nikola
Welcome back, Vedghest the Gargoyle Fighter.
The Shining One says: Lead the forces of light to victory!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Level annotation: Nikola
Welcome back, Vedghest the Gargoyle Fighter.
The Shining One says: Lead the forces of light to victory!
Press ? for a list of commands and other information.
Annotate which branch? (. - Spider:1, ? - help, ! - show branch list)
Okay, then.

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You can see Nikola.

Vanquished Creatures
  A bone dragon (Swamp:4)
  Kirke (Swamp:1)
  A fenstrider witch (Swamp:2)
  2 ghouls
  6 eleionomae
  5 bunyips
  Snorg (Lair:5)
  4 hydras
  Erolcha (D:9)
  A ghost crab (Swamp:4)
  7 alligators
  2 thrashing horrors (Lair:5)
  A boulder beetle (Lair:4)
  4 death yaks (Lair:5)
  Sonja (Orc:2)
  A skyshark (Lair:2)
  7 goliath frogs
  2 obsidian bats
  A death drake (Swamp:4)
  7 spriggan druids
  A large abomination (Lair:5)
  5 swamp dragons
  7 bog bodies
  Pikel (D:9)
  2 phantasmal warriors (Swamp:4)
  2 orc knights (Orc:2)
  5 ugly things (Lair:5)
  Maurice (D:7)
  A will-o-the-wisp (Swamp:4)
  5 kobold blastminers (Orc:2)
  5 black mambas
  2 smoke demons (Lair:5)
  A torpor snail (Lair:4)
  8 cane toads
  A rime drake (Lair:2)
  7 komodo dragons
  2 trolls
  9 hornets
  7 tyrant leeches
  13 blink frogs
  A raiju (Lair:5)
  A hippogriff (Bailey)
  12 dream sheep (Lair:3)
  3 culicivoras (Spider:1)
  16 spriggans
  6 hydra zombies (Swamp:4)
  4 spectral hydras (Swamp:4)
  2 alligator zombies (Swamp:4)
  A spectral alligator (Swamp:4)
  4 wyverns
  3 ravens
  34 yaks
  A yak (shapeshifter) (Lair:5)
  5 hogs (Swamp:1)
  5 basilisks
  A steam dragon (D:8)
  A warg (Orc:1)
  3 redbacks (Lair:2)
  A neqoxec (Lair:5)
  2 spectral swamp dragons (Swamp:4)
  A swamp dragon zombie (Swamp:4)
  2 chaos spawn (Lair:5)
  7 small abominations (Lair:5)
  19 swamp worms
  An acid dragon (D:7)
  17 water moccasins
  2 swamp drakes
  28 orc warriors
  A sky beast (D:7)
  An ice beast (D:8)
  6 black bears
  6 ogres
  10 wolves
  8 centaurs
  7 kobold brigands (Bailey)
  11 bullfrogs
  3 scorpions
  8 wights
  4 tyrant leech zombies (Swamp:4)
  4 killer bees (D:9)
  A howler monkey (D:7)
  6 spectral spriggans (Swamp:4)
  5 electric eels
  A bombardier beetle (D:6)
  A jelly (D:6)
  4 orc priests
  11 hounds
  A swamp worm zombie (Swamp:4)
  5 drudes
  2 sleepcaps
  A clockroach (D:5)
  An iguana (D:5)
  Ijyb (D:3)
  17 orc wizards
  6 adders
  A gnoll (D:3)
  A shadow imp (D:6)
  A white imp (D:5)
  A statue (D:9)
  6 dart slugs
  2 ribbon worms
  38 orcs
  5 endoplasms
  6 hobgoblins
  3 jackals (D:3)
  3 quokkas
  7 ball pythons
  4 bats
  A frilled lizard (D:1)
  18 goblins
  18 kobolds
  7 rats
578 creatures vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills)
  An iguana (D:6)
1 creature vanquished.

Vanquished Creatures (others)
  6 bloated husks
  A water moccasin (Lair:5)
7 creatures vanquished.

Grand Total: 586 creatures vanquished

Notes
Turn   | Place    | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
     0 | D:1      | Vedghest the Gargoyle Fighter began the quest for the Orb.
     0 | D:1      | Reached XP level 1. HP: 14/14 MP: 1/1
   183 | D:1      | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 2/2
   823 | D:2      | You fall into a shaft and drop 1 floor!
   824 | D:3      | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados.
   938 | D:2      | Reached XP level 3. HP: 22/23 MP: 3/3
  1752 | D:3      | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
  1813 | D:3      | Reached XP level 4. HP: 29/29 MP: 4/4
  1898 | D:3      | Encountered Ijyb
  1910 | D:3      | Killed Ijyb
  1911 | D:3      | Reached skill level 3 in Maces & Flails
  2145 | D:3      | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh.
  2299 | D:3      | Reached XP level 5. HP: 33/33 MP: 5/5
  2616 | D:4      | Encountered a black bear
  2623 | D:4      | Killed a black bear
  2624 | D:4      | Reached skill level 4 in Maces & Flails
  2749 | D:4      | Reached XP level 6. HP: 38/38 MP: 6/6
  2787 | D:4      | Found an ornate altar of the Wu Jian Council.
  2912 | D:4      | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul.
  2912 | D:4      | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru.
  3068 | D:4      | Found an opulent altar of Gozag.
  3168 | D:5      | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
  3250 | D:5      | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
  3275 | Temple   | Entered the Ecumenical Temple
  3286 | Temple   | Became a worshipper of the Shining One
  3412 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails
  3412 | D:5      | Reached skill level 1 in Dodging
  3412 | D:5      | Reached XP level 7. HP: 44/44 MP: 7/7
  3632 | D:5      | Found a statue of an orb of fire.
  3644 | D:5      | Found a statue of an orb of fire.
  3674 | D:5      | Reached skill level 5 in Armour
  3768 | D:5      | Found a shadowy altar of Dithmenos.
  3790 | D:5      | Found Naffeawk's Armour Emporium.
  3799 | D:5      | Bought a +2 cloak of willpower for 279 gold pieces
  4044 | D:6      | Reached skill level 6 in Maces & Flails
  4186 | D:6      | Reached XP level 8. HP: 48/48 MP: 8/8
  4227 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
  4227 | D:6      | Reached skill level 5 in Shields
  4257 | D:6      | Reached * piety under the Shining One
  4467 | D:6      | Reached skill level 7 in Maces & Flails
  5107 | D:7      | Reached skill level 8 in Maces & Flails
  5107 | D:7      | Reached XP level 9. HP: 55/55 MP: 9/9
  5165 | D:7      | Found a flagged portal.
  5205 | Bailey   | Entered a bailey
  5294 | Bailey   | Reached skill level 9 in Maces & Flails
  5405 | Bailey   | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  5412 | Bailey   | Identified the quill talisman of Owijos {rElec rCorr Slay+2
                  | Stlth+}
  5704 | D:7      | Found an iron altar of Okawaru.
  5761 | D:7      | Encountered Maurice
  5780 | D:7      | Maurice stole 25 poisoned darts
  5790 | D:7      | Maurice stole 411 gold
  5801 | D:7      | Maurice stole an amulet of reflection
  5802 | D:7      | Killed Maurice
  5803 | D:7      | Reached XP level 10. HP: 39/61 MP: 10/10
  5994 | D:8      | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails
  6153 | D:8      | Found a staircase to the Lair.
  6366 | D:8      | Found Xalu Hiolir's Superior Scales.
  6420 | D:8      | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin.
  6420 | D:8      | Found a burning altar of Makhleb.
  6421 | D:8      | Encountered a balrug
  6421 | D:8      | Encountered an angel
  6421 | D:8      | Reached ** piety under the Shining One
  6498 | D:8      | Found the +16 obsidian axe {drain, demonic, Mesm ^Drain Fly
                  | SInv}
  6517 | D:8      | Got the +16 obsidian axe {drain, demonic, Mesm ^Drain Fly
                  | SInv}
  6791 | D:9      | Identified a scroll of acquirement
  6792 | D:9      | Acquired the +12 great mace "Pafemm" {protect, rElec rF+
                  | Will+ Dex+3}
  6840 | D:9      | Encountered Erolcha
  6847 | D:9      | Killed Erolcha
  6848 | D:9      | Reached skill level 11 in Maces & Flails
  6866 | D:9      | Encountered Pikel
  6872 | D:9      | Killed Pikel
  6997 | D:9      | Found Pixtiam's Specific Store.
  7000 | D:9      | Found Tesezy's General Store.
  7009 | D:9      | Bought a scroll of fear for 52 gold pieces
  7009 | D:9      | Bought 3 scrolls of teleportation for 117 gold pieces
  7032 | D:9      | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet.
  7158 | D:9      | Reached XP level 11. HP: 68/68 MP: 11/11
  7185 | D:9      | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines.
  7588 | Lair:1   | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts
  7615 | Lair:1   | Reached skill level 12 in Maces & Flails
  7639 | Lair:1   | Identified the amulet of the Jester {Wildshape Fly}
  8382 | Lair:2   | Reached skill level 13 in Maces & Flails
  8400 | Lair:2   | Identified the spore talisman of Impermeability {Will++
                  | Str+3 Int-5 SInv}
  8471 | Lair:2   | Found a hole to the Spider Nest.
  8533 | Lair:2   | Reached *** piety under the Shining One
  8600 | Lair:2   | Encountered a skyshark
  8608 | Lair:2   | Killed a skyshark
  8669 | Lair:2   | Reached XP level 12. HP: 76/76 MP: 12/12
  9139 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 14 in Maces & Flails
  9673 | Lair:3   | Identified the +0 leather armour "Kyurgh" {+Blink}
  9751 | Lair:3   | Found a staircase to the Swamp.
  9751 | Lair:3   | Encountered an eleionoma
  9758 | Lair:3   | Killed an eleionoma
  9759 | Lair:3   | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting
 10636 | Lair:4   | Encountered an acid blob
 10636 | Lair:4   | Encountered an acid blob
 10637 | Lair:4   | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits.
 10661 | Lair:4   | Reached skill level 15 in Maces & Flails
 10747 | Lair:4   | Encountered a boulder beetle
 10770 | Lair:4   | Killed a boulder beetle
 11541 | Lair:5   | Entered Level 5 of the Lair of Beasts
 11563 | Lair:5   | Encountered Snorg
 11573 | Lair:5   | Killed Snorg
 11649 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 13. HP: 56/83 MP: 13/13
 11675 | Lair:5   | Reached **** piety under the Shining One
 11681 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 10 in Armour
 11706 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 16 in Maces & Flails
 12311 | Lair:5   | Reached ***** piety under the Shining One
 12416 | Lair:5   | Reached skill level 17 in Maces & Flails
 12832 | Lair:5   | Gained mutation: Your large and strong wings let you fly.
                  | [Gargoyle growth]
 12832 | Lair:5   | Reached XP level 14. HP: 91/91 MP: 14/14
 12845 | Lair:5   | Found a corrupted altar of Lugonu.
 12845 | Lair:5   | Found a one-way gate to the infinite horrors of the Abyss.
 13087 | Orc:1    | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines
 13298 | Orc:1    | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh.
 13512 | Orc:2    | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines
 13512 | Orc:2    | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls.
 13555 | Orc:2    | Found Ostrac's General Store.
 13695 | Orc:2    | Found Baly's Book Boutique.
 14006 | Orc:2    | Reached skill level 18 in Maces & Flails
 14264 | Orc:2    | Found Beniol's Antique Weapon Emporium.
 14264 | Orc:2    | Found Izen's Jewellery Boutique.
 14266 | Orc:2    | Found Xeoty's General Store.
 14268 | Orc:2    | Found Fipnaclepi's Magic Scroll Shoppe.
 14270 | Orc:2    | Encountered Sonja
 14299 | Orc:2    | Killed Sonja
 14315 | Orc:2    | Bought a scroll of blinking for 188 gold pieces
 14322 | Orc:2    | Bought the ring "Ociklag" {AC+4 Str+2 Int+3} for 909 gold
                  | pieces
 14475 | Orc:2    | Bought a scorched flail for 238 gold pieces
 14475 | Orc:2    | Identified the +2 flail of Internal Strife {flame, rF+ rC+}
                  | (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Orcish Mines)
 14525 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 172 gold pieces
 14525 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 172 gold pieces
 14525 | Orc:2    | Bought a potion of heal wounds for 172 gold pieces
 14693 | Swamp:1  | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp
 14947 | Swamp:1  | Encountered an eleionoma
 14961 | Swamp:1  | Killed an eleionoma
 14985 | Swamp:1  | Encountered Kirke
 15047 | Swamp:1  | Killed Kirke
 15239 | Swamp:1  | Identified the spore talisman of the Sailor {Harm rN++
                  | Int-3}
 15481 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 19 in Maces & Flails
 15604 | Swamp:2  | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
 15604 | Swamp:2  | Reached XP level 15. HP: 97/99 MP: 15/15
 15680 | Swamp:2  | Reached ****** piety under the Shining One
 15771 | Swamp:2  | Encountered a fenstrider witch
 15776 | Swamp:2  | Killed a fenstrider witch
 16491 | Swamp:4  | Entered Level 4 of the Swamp
 16686 | Swamp:4  | Reached skill level 20 in Maces & Flails
 17494 | Swamp:4  | Encountered a bone dragon
 17518 | Swamp:4  | Killed a bone dragon
 17544 | Swamp:4  | Got a decaying rune of Zot
 17729 | Swamp:4  | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure.
 17855 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest
 17865 | Spider:1 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 107/107 MP: 16/16
 17892 | Spider:1 | Encountered Nikola

Illustrated notes

Skill      XL: |  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 |
---------------+----------------------------------------------+-----
Armour         |        4           5  6     8  9    10 11 12 | 12,3
Maces & Flails |           3  4  5  6  8  9 11 13 15 17 19 20 | 20,4
Fighting       |              4        5  6  7  9 10 11 13 14 | 14,8
Shields        |              4        5  6  7                |  7,3
Dodging        |                 1        2  3     4     5    |  5,5

Action                     |  1- 3 |  4- 6 |  7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 || total
---------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
 Attack: Normal            |   147 |   130 |   347 |   425 |   945 |     8 ||  2002
  Melee: Flail             |   141 |    14 |   347 |   143 |       |       ||   645
         Whip              |     6 |   116 |       |       |       |       ||   122
         Great mace        |       |       |       |   282 |   945 |     8 ||  1235
  Drink: Might             |       |     1 |     1 |       |     1 |       ||     3
         Curing            |       |       |     2 |       |       |       ||     2
         Haste             |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
   Read: Identify          |       |     4 |     5 |     7 |     1 |       ||    17
         Enchant weapon    |       |       |     2 |       |       |       ||     2
         Blinking          |       |       |     1 |       |     1 |       ||     2
         Teleportation     |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
         Noise             |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
         Summoning         |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
         Fog               |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
         Revelation        |       |       |     1 |       |       |       ||     1
         Acquirement       |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
         Vulnerability     |       |       |       |     1 |       |       ||     1
         Enchant armour    |       |       |       |       |     3 |       ||     3
 Armour: Scale mail        |    78 |       |       |       |       |       ||    78
         Chain mail        |    39 |    90 |   358 |   400 |  1142 |       ||  2029
         None              |       |       |       |       |     5 |       ||     5
         Shadow dragon sca |       |       |       |       |     5 |     3 ||     8
  Dodge: Dodged            |    42 |    38 |   139 |   154 |   480 |     2 ||   855
  Block: Buckler           |    28 |    32 |   147 |    36 |       |       ||   243
         Reflection        |       |       |     6 |       |       |       ||     6


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Nikola gestures wildly while chanting.
Lightning arcs from Nikola's hands! The bolt of lightning hits you!!! You
resist.
Ouch! That really hurt!
A bolt of lightning appears from out of thin air!
The bolt of lightning hits Nikola!

This is chain lightning! Nikola cast it at you, it hit you only once, then it chained back to him. Chain lightning, like other level 9 elemental spells, ignores a portion (half I believe?) of your resistance.

Nikola’s clightning does 3d45 damage and I believe you resist 1/3 damage instead of 2/3rd’s so at worst you would take 90 damage!

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Yes, I already wondered if it was lightning bolt or chain lightning. Being able to read the morgue file helps a lot when players ask for advice.

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Chain lightning instead of lightning bolt which ignores half resistance (but doesn’t reflect off the wall) would be an explanation, thanks. But how did you read that from the messages? It says bolt of lightning in there twice and with the positioning as is a lightning bolt would have hit me twice and him once.

After pondering the situation for a bit, I think a scroll of silence would be the best way for my char to deal with Nikola (his melee is not really a threat to my tank). Unfortunately I don’t have any right now, so getting away is the immediate goal. I quaffed a potion of haste and then read a scroll of blink. That gave Nikola two moves with sight of my char which he used for a melee attack (zero damage) and an actual lightning bolt (~15 damage) and I got away.

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Indeed, a scroll of silence is a very good way to deal with nikola as chain lightning is extremely dangerous.

But how did you read that from the messages? It says bolt of lightning in there twice

Yes, that’s irritating. And I’m not sure if rypofalem and me were right when we thought it was chain lightning - as chain lightning’s message is “You hear a mighty clap of thunder! The lightning arc hits you!”

I think your char was really hit by a lightning bolt and I’m surprised it did that much damage.

I was able to immediately tell the difference only because I spent some time trying to reproduce lightning bolt doing unexpected damage.

Nikola casting chain lightning has two tells: “Lightning arcs from Nikola’s hands” which happens every time and “A bolt of lightning appears from out of thin air” which happens whenever it chains.

You can see the name of the spell being cast in a debug build of crawl:

Mon #0 casts Chain Lightning. Nikola casts a spell. Lightning arcs from Nikola's hands! The bolt of lightning hits you!! A bolt of lightning appears from out of thin air! The bolt of lightning hits Nikola!

Mon #0 casts Lightning Bolt. Nikola points at you and mumbles some strange words. The bolt of lightning hits you!!

In-game I wouldn’t care to distinguish the difference because it doesn’t matter to me which spell was cast, I am in the situation I am in regardless! I could see an argument that it might be better flavor to differentiate the two though

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Agreed, the flavour of these two spells is confusing.

(It reminds me a bit of hellfire in earlier versions which led to the question why players with rF+ wouldn’t be protected. So “hellfire” was renamed to “damnation”.)

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I think the original post is a good argument for why the message log should clearly differentiate between spells: you can xv a monster to see the exact range, damage, and effects of each spell, but the damage numbers don’t account for player defenses so players still have to calculate it themselves. If the actual, real-world results of a spell are surprising, the player really needs to know which spell they were wrong about (and, ideally, why) so that they can accurately assess threats in the future - both in the moment (to escape that unexpectedly dangerous spell’s range) and in future runs.

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It’s very easy to change. What would y’all rather call it?

“The X hits you!”
“A[n] X appears from out of thin air!”
“The X hits Nikola!”

Perhaps it could just be called “chain lightning”? “arc of electricity” is used by a few other effects. Maybe “arc of lightning”?