Need advice for MI-Be going to orc mines for first time?

Hi guys, only been playing just over a week, finished lair 5 twice now and am looking to head to orc mines. Advice?

Or should I go spider or snake pit first? Lair is on dungeon 11 (cleared,( have not done 12)

Orc is good after Lair and D:1-14.

Advice is the same as in the rest of the game: retreat early, retreat often. Especially in Orc, there isn’t much that can kill you if you stick to this maxim. (Presuming you’re appropriately leveled, with well-balanced skills and the best available equipment.)

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Ok I cleared level 14 and meanwhile got sucked down to 15 and killed a bunch of baddies just trying to get back to stairwell. How bad is the rest of 15. Wondering if I should try finishing it? Really need scrolls and potions and haven’t found a lot. The only shop since one was on level 14 and it was all parchments. Roflol… So I ALMOST made it through 15. Some giant brain thing banished me to the abyss with one spell. I managed to stay in one place and battle my way til a portal appeared but when I got back I was surrounded and couldn’t heal anymore with potions. I did survive the abyss!

Vanquished Creatures
2 tentacled starspawn (Abyss:1)
A draconian shifter (Abyss:1)
An ettin (D:15)
3 ogre magi
A thrashing horror (Abyss:1)
2 hell knights (D:15)
A deep troll (D:15)
3 large abominations (Abyss:1)
A phantasmal warrior (D:15)
An orc knight (D:13)
A necromancer (D:15)
A worldbinder (Abyss:1)
A meliai (shapeshifter) (D:15)
2 merfolk sirens (Lair:2)
A smoke demon (Abyss:1)
An orange demon (Abyss:1)
2 freezing wraiths
4 tengu conjurers
A hellwing (Abyss:1)
A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (D:13)
A wyvern (shapeshifter) (D:15)
A raven (shapeshifter) (D:15)
An iron imp (Abyss:1)
A tengu warrior (D:15)
A wretched star (Abyss:1)
A drude (Abyss:1)

Generally you want to do whatever content is the easiest for your character to suck up XP and items in order to prepare for the harder content. If a place is giving you a lot of trouble, check around elsewhere and see if that’s easier for your character.

That said the general order for a 3-rune game is:

order[1/2]: (according to elliptic) D:11 → Lair → D:12 → Orc → D:15 → S:3 → maybe other S:3 → get both S runes → Elf (but probably wait on the Elf:3 vault) → Vaults:4 → maybe Crypt → Depths → maybe Slime → Vaults:5 → maybe Slime → Zot (“S” means Shoals/Snake/Spider/Swamp)

But every dungeon and every character is different so again consider changing it up a bit if things feel too hard. If D:15 has a nasty unique you just don’t want to fight that is preventing further progress, moving on to S branches is fine.

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Thanks, and yeah, I am very careful about reading about new characters but the brain thing hit me first try from range. I had no blinks and coming back from abyss I had only 49 hit points and a baddy right in front I killed but then hit by a poison arrow. Thanks… I am even stronger today and ready to head to orc. The dungeon was good to me today but past 11 was brutal, I quit 12 to do lair back on 8 and it was easy peasy. Orc was easy as pie but not much but scrolls to buy. Went into Elvish halls, made it easily to end vault, then all hell broke loose and as usual, I forgot to slow down and use my blinks and stuff to get out of there. I killed almost all but I still don;t know enough to know what scrolls work on what. Now I have seen them, I know what to expect from some of the elves and orcs.

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