Died to my own orc apostle. I don’t think I had anything to kill them with. Feels unfair. Feel free to enlighten me better if I could’ve performed better, but keep in mind that I have a tendency to tackle fights and have some overconfidence (isn’t that for everyone though?). I did try to use my wand of paralysis on the apostle five times (yes, five times! with around 55% or so (but definitely more than 50%) success chance) and they all failed for an unknown reason (the orc apostle, when examined, said “empowered by Beogh” but I have no idea if that makes them resistant to paralysis (EDIT: AFAIK, Beogh’s empowerment of orc apostle challenges doesn’t change the mechanics of combat against them, meaning that there’s no opacity/unfairness as I initially suspected there was)). As a last resort I also quaffed my potion of experience and upped Fighting (focused), Dodging (focused), and Shields (unfocused), if I’m recalling correctly. Perhaps I should’ve quaffed an unidentified potion instead (EDIT: I’m stupid, that’s exactly what I did, that’s why I have a status of attraction).
I consider Beogh a nontrivial god because it creates intentionally challenging monsters to hunt you and kill you and punishes you if you try to escape them, but this feels unfair. I feel like avoiding Beogh in the future. (EDIT: Not anymore! Beogh is not unfair as I initially suspected it to be.)
Highlights:
- Potion of experience (see seed below) in an early Dungeon floor, I think 4 but I’m not sure.
- I haven’t seen any altar until dying on floor 7 (not fully explored) except a faded altar on D:1 and TSO on D:7.
- The Ecumenical Temple is on D:6 (EDIT: opened the same seed in Explore Mode — the Temple has Cheibriados, Dithmenos, Elyvilon, Fedhas, Gozag, Kikubaaqudgha, Makhleb, Nemelex, Okawaru, Qazlal, Ru, Sif Muna, Trog, Uskayaw, Vehumet, Xom, Yredelemnul, and Zin).
- Maurice is on D:7.
Morgue file:
Source: https://underhound.eu/crawl/morgue/zikada/morgue-zikada-20241003-210832.txt
Reproduced:
Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.32.1 (webtiles) character file.
Game seed: 15385578129250496164
4284 zikada the Nimble (level 10, -1/85 HPs)
Began as a Merfolk Monk on Oct 3, 2024.
Was a Priest of Beogh.
Killed by divine providence
... invoked by Wargrak the orc apostle
(12 damage)
... on level 7 of the Dungeon.
The game lasted 01:05:19 (6874 turns).
zikada the Nimble (Merfolk Monk) Turns: 6874, Time: 01:05:19
Health: -1/85 AC: 7 Str: 13 XL: 10 Next: 32%
Magic: 12/12 EV: 18 Int: 11 God: Beogh [***...]
Gold: 213 SH: 8 Dex: 18 Spells: 9/9 levels left
rFire . . . a - +0 falchion
rCold . . . o - +2 buckler {rPois}
rNeg . . . u - +0 robe
rPois + x - +0 helmet
rElec . k - +1 cloak
rCorr . (no gloves)
SInv . s - +1 pair of boots
Will ..... (no amulet)
Stlth +++ (no ring)
HPRegen 0.34/turn (no ring)
MPRegen 0.13/turn
%: no passive effects
@: attractive
A: (nimble swimmer 2), mertail
a: Renounce Religion, Smiting
You were on level 7 of the Dungeon.
You worshipped Beogh.
Beogh was most pleased with you.
You visited 1 branch of the dungeon, and saw 7 of its levels.
You collected 415 gold pieces.
You spent 202 gold pieces at shops.
Inventory:
Hand Weapons
a - a +0 falchion (weapon)
b - a +2 short sword of venom
n - a +3 heavy spear
v - a +2 dagger of holy wrath
Missiles
f - 11 poisoned darts (quivered)
j - 68 stones
l - 5 datura-tipped darts
Armour
d - an orb of light
k - a +1 cloak (worn)
o - a +2 buckler of poison resistance (worn)
s - a +1 pair of boots (worn)
u - a +0 robe (worn)
x - a +0 helmet (worn)
y - an orb of energy
Magical Staves
e - a staff of cold
Scrolls
B - a scroll of revelation
Potions
g - a potion of attraction
i - a potion of resistance
m - a potion of invisibility {unknown}
p - a potion of haste {unknown}
q - a potion of cancellation {unknown}
r - 2 potions of mutation
z - a potion of degeneration {unknown}
A - a potion of lignification {unknown}
Skills:
* Level 9.9 Fighting
+ Level 5.7 Long Blades
* Level 4.5 Throwing
+ Level 11.4 Dodging
+ Level 4.1 Stealth
- Level 6.7 Shields
+ Level 3.7 Invocations
* Level 5.0 Evocations
You had 9 spell levels left.
You didn't know any spells.
Your spell library was empty.
Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations
Branches:
Dungeon (7/15) Temple (0/1) D:6
Altars:
The Shining One
Shops:
D:4 [
Annotations:
D:5 Pikel!, exclusion: lemure, Grinder
D:7 exclusion: jelly, Maurice
Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations
Your facial features are unmistakably orcish.
((You are very nimble when in or above water. (Stealth+, EV+, Speed+++)))
Your lower body shifts to a powerful aquatic tail in water.
Message History
You feel better.
The wyvern bites you but does no damage.
The wyvern barely misses you.
Wargrak hits you with a +2 hand axe of freezing.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Wargrak freezes you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You feel more experienced!
Your Fighting skill gained 4 levels and is now at level 9!
Your Dodging skill gained 5 levels and is now at level 11!
Your Shields skill gained 2 levels and is now at level 6!
Training target 6.0 for Shields reached!
You have reached level 10!
You feel clever.
You block the wyvern's attack.
Wargrak hits you with a +2 hand axe of freezing.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Wargrak freezes you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You aren't carrying any items that you can evoke.
Okay, then.
Okay, then.
Unknown command.
Unknown command.
It was a potion of attraction.
You feel attractive to monsters.
The wyvern closely misses you. The wyvern bites you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Wargrak hits you with a +2 hand axe of freezing.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
Wargrak freezes you.
* * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * *
You closely miss Wargrak. The wyvern closely misses you.
You block Wargrak's attack.
You hit Wargrak but do no damage. The wyvern closely misses you.
The wyvern barely misses you.
Wargrak invokes the aid of Beogh against you.
Beogh smites you!
You die...
Beogh appreciates Wargrak's killing of a heretic priest.
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You could see Wargrak the orc apostle (divinely empowered) and a wyvern.
Vanquished Creatures
Prince Ribbit (D:5)
Menkaure (D:6)
2 water moccasins (D:7)
An ice beast (D:6)
4 black bears
A kobold brigand (D:7)
A bullfrog (D:6)
A scorpion (D:5)
3 killer bees (D:7)
2 howler monkeys
A bombardier beetle (D:6)
A hound (D:4)
5 orc priests
A gnoll bouda (D:5)
4 iguanas
A sleepcap (D:5)
4 orc wizards
4 gnolls (D:5)
10 adders
4 shadow imps
3 white imps
5 dart slugs
A ribbon worm (D:3)
22 orcs
4 endoplasms
3 giant cockroaches
3 goblins
12 hobgoblins
A jackal (D:2)
11 kobolds
2 quokkas
6 ball pythons
6 bats
4 frilled lizards
A goblin zombie (D:7)
3 hobgoblin zombies (D:7)
A kobold skeleton (D:7)
An orc skeleton (D:7)
3 orc zombies (D:7)
11 rats
155 creatures vanquished.
Notes
Turn | Place | Note
-------+----------+-------------------------------------------
0 | D:1 | zikada the Merfolk Monk began the quest for the Orb.
0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 18/18 MP: 1/1
220 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 24/24 MP: 2/2
239 | D:1 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations
736 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 28/29 MP: 3/3
874 | D:1 | Found a faded altar of an unknown god.
874 | D:1 | Noticed an orange demon
1340 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing
1371 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Stealth
1371 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 35/35 MP: 4/4
1501 | D:2 | Identified the +1 scale mail "Sucziasham" {Int+3}
1613 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations
2064 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 42/42 MP: 5/5
2882 | D:4 | Found Xeabe's Antique Armour Emporium.
3239 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 39/48 MP: 7/7
3394 | D:4 | Bought a shiny buckler for 202 gold pieces
3418 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon
3451 | D:5 | Noticed Prince Ribbit
3472 | D:5 | Noticed a black bear
3474 | D:5 | Killed Prince Ribbit
3475 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging
3475 | D:5 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields
3475 | D:5 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 36/54 MP: 8/8
3782 | D:5 | Reached * piety under Beogh
3782 | D:5 | Reached ** piety under Beogh
3782 | D:5 | Became a worshipper of Beogh the Shepherd
3960 | D:5 | HP: 2/54 [iguana (10)]
4729 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 55/61 MP: 9/9
4922 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades
4949 | D:5 | Noticed Grinder
5366 | D:6 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting
5525 | D:6 | Noticed Menkaure
5527 | D:6 | Killed Menkaure
5693 | D:6 | Reached skill level 6 in Dodging
5851 | D:6 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple.
6468 | D:7 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 44/68 MP: 11/11
6732 | D:7 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One.
6780 | D:7 | Noticed Maurice
6816 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations
6832 | D:7 | Reached *** piety under Beogh
6862 | D:7 | Noticed Wargrak
6871 | D:7 | Reached skill level 11 in Dodging
6871 | D:7 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 19/85 MP: 12/12
6874 | D:7 | Killed from afar by Wargrak the orc apostle
Illustrated notes
Levels and vault maps discovered:
D:1: ncdulo_wetmaze, layout_loops_ring,
dreamdust_ecumenical_altar_sealed_demon, moated_statue,
minmay_octomino_c4
D:2: minmay_razor_zed, layout_loops_ring
D:3: layout_basic
D:4: layout_rooms, serial_shops, nicolae_shop_advertising_works
[nicolae_subvault_shop_adworks]
D:5: layout_gridville, uniq_prince_ribbit1, uniq_pikel, uniq_grinder
D:6: layout_cave_pools, minmay_temple_entry_slanted, uniq_menkaure
D:7: layout_rooms, nicolae_tso_besieged_by_evil, minmay_checkerbox,
uniq_maurice
Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 |
---------------+----------------------------+-----
Evocations | 1 2 3 4 5 | 5.0
Throwing | 1 2 3 4 | 4.5
Long Blades | 4 5 | 5.7
Stealth | 1 2 3 4 | 4.1
Invocations | 1 2 3 | 3.7
Fighting | 4 5 9 | 9.9
Dodging | 5 6 11 | 11.4
Shields | 1 2 3 6 | 6.7
Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 || total
---------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------++-------
Melee: Falchion | 102 | 149 | 397 | 2 || 650
Throw: Dart | | 10 | 18 | || 28
Invoke: Smiting | | | 6 | || 6
Convert to Beogh | | | 1 | || 1
Evoke: Wand | | | 9 | || 9
Use: Scroll | 4 | 8 | 5 | || 17
Potion | | | 13 | 1 || 14
Stab: Sleeping | 1 | | 3 | || 4
Distracted | | | 1 | || 1
Paralysed | | | 4 | || 4
Armour: Robe | 55 | 66 | 282 | 3 || 406
Dodge: Dodged | 86 | 73 | 254 | 4 || 417
Block: Buckler | | 4 | 160 | 2 || 166
I was able to successfully use both a wand of paralysis and a wand of charming against an orc challenge. Your testing was more methodical/thorough than mine though, I just gave myself lots of wands and tried on the apostle until it worked. I also tried to find the initial commit that reworked Beogh in Git (emphasis on initial, but I’m assuming it hadn’t changed much since the initial), and it says the empowerment only adds HP (which is communicated to the player in the UI) and a sort of might & brilliance effect — if that’s still true, then the empowerment doesn’t add anything that change the mechanics of the combat with the apostle, so I was wrong to call it “opaque”, which is good! And I’ll try Beogh again sometime.
(It’s actually an idea I got from someone else on the web, I used to quaff potions of experience immediately. Reminds me that there was a run in the previous version where I found 3 self-identifying potions of experience in a bailey lol. I think I jumped from XL 12 to 15.)